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After a few hours I did get all working
apt-add-repository does not work for devuan or armbian, so has to be all manual (install)
3.4 does not seem to connect to 4.0 (and vice-versa),,, arm64 (4.0) -- x86_64 (3.4)
Only finds port "0", don't know if arm64 bug or 4.0 bug
arm64 3.4 does all work OK, no changes to router
With devuan chimeara, libayatana-appindicator1 has no version (this is where libappindicator1 comes from)
This makes dpkg VERY unhappy, it (nitroshare) still works but dpkg NOT
I had to edit control and remove version
There should be a link to various versions to make it a bit easier
all 4 computers are on 3.4
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