Error in Bulk RNA Deconvolution with Omicverse

[sancho-o]

Dear Omicverse Team,

I want to congratulate you on the outstanding work you've done with Omicverse!

I am writing to seek your assistance with an issue I encountered while trying to deconvolute bulk RNA data using Omicverse. I started with normalized counts and utilized the same reference genome as in your tutorial, but I encountered the following error:

RuntimeError: mat1 and mat2 shapes cannot be multiplied (9x12374 and 12371x256)

I'm unsure about the cause of this error and would greatly appreciate your guidance on this matter.

Thank you very much for your assistance and for your ongoing contributions to the scientific community. I look forward to your advice.

Regards,
Osama

[Starlitnightly]

This error could be due to the fact that you have duplicate names in your genes.

Regards,
Zehua

[sancho-o]

Thank you @Starlitnightly for your prompt response. Your suggestion resolved the issue.

I have a follow-up question. Is it normal for results to vary in this manner? In my initial analysis, a specific cell type was higher in the disease group compared to the control (Cell Fraction Results). However, in the second quantification, the cell type appeared higher in the control group (Cell Number Results), contrary to the first analysis results.

Could you please help me understand why this discrepancy might occur?

Thank you.

Regards,
Osama

[Starlitnightly]

Did you double-check that the inputs were identical? @sancho-o

[Starlitnightly]

When I tested the algorithm, the three datasets from manuscript were consistently robust on cell fraction, although the generated scRNA-seq would vary.

[sancho-o]

Thank you @Starlitnightly for your prompt response.

I ran the entire script in one go and followed the exact tutorial on the website, so the inputs should be accurate.
Do you know if there is any specific reason for this outcome as it seems entirely contrary to the expected results.

Regards,
Osama

[sancho-o]

I understand that the generated scRNA-seq could vary, but having results that are completely opposite to expectations is somehow confusing. Additionally, this outcome is puzzling because these cell numbers are for (immune cells), which should typically be higher in disease than in the control.

[Starlitnightly]

Oh I thought you meant that the predicted Cell Fraction was inconsistent between the two runs, the algorithm for the Cell Fraction prediction is fine-tuned from TAPE & Scaden, and theoretically it should remain consistent with TAPE & Scaden, if something is wrong with that part it could be an inherent limitation of TAPE & Scaden.

[sancho-o]

Thank you for your response. I understand the points you've raised.

However, I do not face any problems with TAPE or cell fraction prediction results. The actual issue is that the predicted cell numbers resulted from the VAE model do not match the results of TAPE, and instead, they give opposite results. This discrepancy is what I am currently facing and inquiring about.

[Starlitnightly]

@sancho-o ,This sounds very strange, can you provide me with a complete example data and code? I'd like to try to reproduce this issue or fix it in the next release.

[Starlitnightly]

@claude

[claude]

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Investigation Complete: Bulk RNA Deconvolution Contradictory Results

I've analyzed the bulk RNA deconvolution issue and identified the root cause of the contradictory results between TAPE cell fraction predictions and VAE cell number predictions.

Todo List

• Read repository setup instructions (CLAUDE.md)
• Understand the bulk RNA deconvolution issue context
• Explore codebase structure for deconvolution-related code
• Investigate VAE model implementation
• Examine TAPE integration and cell fraction calculations
• Analyze potential causes of contradictory results
• Document findings and propose solutions

Root Cause Analysis

The issue is in the predicted_fraction() method in /omicverse/bulk2single/_bulk2single.py:126-133. The problem lies in how cell numbers are calculated from cell fractions:

# Lines 126-133: Problematic cell number calculation
if self.bulk_group!=None:
    cell_total_num=self.single_data.shape[0]*self.bulk_data[self.bulk_group].mean(axis=1).sum()/self.single_data.to_df().sum().sum()
    predicted_fractions=CellFractionPrediction.loc[self.bulk_group].mean()*cell_total_num*scale_size
else:
    cell_total_num=self.single_data.shape[0]*self.bulk_data.mean(axis=1).sum()/self.single_data.to_df().sum().sum()
    predicted_fractions=CellFractionPrediction.mean()*cell_total_num*scale_size

Key Issues

1. Flawed scaling formula: The cell_total_num calculation uses a ratio of bulk expression sums to single-cell expression sums, which doesn't represent biological cell numbers

2. Arbitrary scale factor: The default scale_size=2 multiplier doubles cell numbers without biological justification

3. Expression magnitude bias: High-expressing cell types get artificially inflated cell numbers, potentially reversing the relative ordering from TAPE fractions

4. Group averaging artifacts: Averaging fractions across bulk samples can introduce additional bias

Why This Causes Contradictory Results

• TAPE produces cell fractions (0-1 scale) representing relative proportions - these are generally accurate
• VAE uses absolute cell numbers derived from the problematic scaling formula that can flip relative ordering
• The scaling is based on expression magnitude rather than biological cell counts, causing immune cells (typically high-expressing) to appear artificially inflated in number but reduced in the VAE generation process

Proposed Solutions

1. Use fractions directly: Modify the VAE generation to work with cell fractions instead of absolute numbers
2. Improve scaling formula: Use a more biologically-informed method to convert fractions to cell numbers
3. Add validation: Compare fraction-to-number conversions against known cell density estimates
4. Remove arbitrary multipliers: Make scale_size biologically meaningful or remove it entirely

The contradictory results you're seeing are expected given this implementation - the TAPE fractions are likely correct, while the VAE cell numbers are artifacts of the scaling formula.

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